We invited the pair to talk about the collaboration…
Robert Dietz: Since you work with different digital tools and have just created a video for me with AI technology, I am of course very interested to know if AI art is the most exciting topic for you in the digital world.
Claudia Rafael: AI is indeed a super exciting topic for me. I’ve been making art with it for about 2 years now and the possibilities and the development in this field are constantly growing. There is also a great community that shares knowledge and from which you can learn a lot. Driven by my curiosity about the latest digital tools, I feel it is essential to keep an eye on technological developments, to deal with them, to question them and to use them at the right moment.
I’m always on the lookout for new workflows, plugins and tricks that enrich my work. Just being aware that something exists that I may not have used before helps in developing projects and realizing ideas.
R: The video is not only sound reactive but its unique feature is the creation of the images shown. You worked with a special text to image GAN that generated this psychedelic world.
Tell me more about the creation process and your idea behind it.
C: I discovered this specific GAN lately and I’m absolutely fascinated about working with it. Fed with text it is able to generate diverse high-resolution images based on funds from the internet. How the AI interprets the text is partly controllable, but on the other hand also very open. It is almost like having a partner in the AI that collaborates with you.
R: Watching the video you have the feeling of losing yourself completely in the hypnotic sequences. You think you recognize things and forms, but they are completely alienated.
What story did you turn into images and why does it seem so abstract?
C: While listening to the song, I tried to put my feelings into words and fed the AI with these.
It felt like flying through an otherworldly digitopia. There’s a certain beauty in the track but also a rough counterpart. From these ideas I defined the look and the AI created these abstract shapes flying through an infinite zoom.
R: It’s like closing your eyes and dreaming to the track. But the dream has become visible and you can share it with everyone. Do you think this kind of video is the future and what would be the next logical step with this technology?
C: You will never be able to completely replace the creativity of a human with AI, but the interaction of the two does indeed open up new production techniques and a range of further creative possibilities.